F4F Q&A #57 Recap: The Next Pre-Order! Cowboy Bebop Jam! & More!

Just another ordinary First 4 Figures Q&A livestream…? Nope! Today’s another big news day for F4F, as the logo for the SD line has been revealed, the Cowboy Bebop Jet Black and Spike Spiegel statues were fully revealed, the next figure going up for pre-orders is revealed, the Solid Snake pre-orders closed, and Last Chance Weekend orders for the Exclusive Ornstein have begun! And oh yeah–get ready, because once again, Fun Daddy Alex and Lieutenant Chockles will be answering dozens and dozens (and dozens!) of collectors’ uncensored questions…

First4Figures SD Logo[The F4F Q&A #57 Recap is now LIVE! Please remember to refresh your screen to see the latest, as I’ll be live-updating during the stream]

On The Week in Review:

  • This year is the 20th Anniversary of Cowboy Bebop (April 3rd)–Perfect timing for the first-ever Cowboy Bebop statues!
  • The next pre-order is confirmed for next week: Dark Souls SD Artorias PVC figure!
  • Would have liked to have the PO for Artorias SD done much closer to the release of Dark Souls Remastered, but Artorias is in production now and F4F doesn’t want to underestimate the number that need to be produced (as with Fighter Kirby and Nightmare)
  • If you liked what you saw with the Crash Bandicoot Exclusive Packaging, you will like what you see with the Artorias SD Packaging!
  • Trying to reach the people who wanted the Artorias resin statue, but it was out of their price range. The original F4F Artorias statue went up for order way back in summer 2016, so there are also many collectors who weren’t collecting or didn’t know about the statue back then and would like an Artorias now.
  • The F4F SD Logo was debuted in the Facebook group today. The numbering on the logo is confusing some people, but Alex explains it for us: the “SD” stands for “Super Deformed” (of course). The “DS” in the logo represents the brand the specific PVC belongs to (“Dark Souls” in this case). The “01” after the “SD” refers to the 1st F4F SD figure released, while the “01” above the “DS” refers to the 1st figure in the Dark Souls SD line.
  • So, for those who who are still scratching their heads, pretend that Solaire is the 8th SD PVC statue that First4Figures produces, but only the 2nd Dark Souls figure. The numbering on the logo will say “F4F SD 08: DS 02”. Make sense?
  • Price for Artorias? “Let’s just say that it’s more complicated paint-wise by a lot than BOTW Link PVC.”
  • First 4 Figures wanted the SD concept to be accessible to Dark Souls fans who can’t afford the resin statues, but didn’t want to just make smaller versions of their statues (similar to what Banpresto has already done)
  • Alex would love to do a Berserk Guts SD–but let’s see how the resin line does first
  • Solid Snake pre-orders have been going very well–pre-orders will be closing after the livestream, but will reopen for Last Chance Weekend in two weeks (February 23rd-26th)
  • Last Chance Weekend opens today for the F4F Exclusive Ornstein! “If you’re on the fence–this is it!”
  • If there was ever a Fierce Deity Link 2.0 statue, Alex would probably go with his own concept as far as the pose goes, rather than referring to any official artwork–might like something more dynamic
  • Majora’s Mask and Silver the Hedgehog passed the transit test and are beginning to be shipped out now
  • F4F made sure that the paper is taped down on Majora’s Mask’s packaging to make sure that the eyes don’t get scratched–extra paper also around tree trunk base to make sure that the paint doesn’t get rubbed off
  • Alex wanted the factory to reduce the shine on the Jin statue (looked too sweaty) and revise the lips on the face
  • As far as Chock knows, the Sonic Boom8 figures are on the boat now–Chock will show the packaging for the figures soon
  • Alex is absolutely thrilled with how Alucard is looking–absolutely stunning; has been refined since NYCC
  • “Do you give a shit about the art prints?” Alex wants to know! Do collectors actually appreciate them, or do you throw them back into the box (or the trash)? Should F4F keep including them? First4Figures puts a lot of effort into these art prints.
  • Didn’t want to rush and put up Green Shovel Knight variant during Last Chance Weekend; will release it for pre-order later, but don’t want collectors to feel obligated to buy it to keep their number for future releases like Plague Knight; will be a standalone piece that doesn’t affect the numbering system
  • Would collectors want to see a standalone Shadow Kirby variant of Fighter Kirby, or would they be upset about a new variant that they didn’t know about being announced after the original is already released?
  • What do members think of the weekly member stats? Should they continue, or are they a point of contention among members of the F4F OCC Facebook group? Let Alex and Chock know what you think!
  • An hour-and-a-half Week in Review this week: Alex and Chock went deep!

Shovel Knight Combo Pack First 4 FiguresOn Shovel Knight:

  • Shovel Knight Exclusive LE Number: 250 pieces
  • Ornate Armor Shovel Knight Exclusive LE Number: 200 pieces
  • The edition of the Ornate version has absolutely saved Shovel Knight from being a castastrophe. If there hadn’t been an Ornate edition, this would have been very close to Vault material. Without the Ornate version and combo packs, Alex would have said the series was done and there wouldn’t be any more releases in the Shovel Knight series.
  • The variant made a huge difference; future repaints such as Green P2 and a possible red Shovel Knight would really help; F4F likes to see at least 550-600 pieces sold in a line
  • Alex wants to be chomping at the bit to make Spector Knight and Plague Knight, but that will be dependent upon orders for Shovel Knight that don’t get cancelled, as well as sales of future variant colors of Shovel Knight like Green and Red
  • The opportunity cost has to be considered when choosing what statues to produce, since F4F can only release so many statues in a year

Nanase Noir Guts Berserk Statue Proposed Variant F4FOn Guts/Berserk:

  • Alex didn’t want to launch Guts too close to Ornstein, since there’s a lot of crossover between the fan bases and they’re both very expensive statues
  • A lot of back-and-forth about doing a Black-and-White Guts statue; production-wise, this type of statue is a nightmare; F4F has made samples in this style in the past
  • First4Figures would never make the Black and White Guts statue version at the same time as the launch of the upcoming Berserk Guts statue–it would go up for order in the future, as it would be too expensive to offer both versions at the same time
  • Not sure if a manga-styled Guts statue could be released at all, but if it was, it would be later
  • Any variant Guts Black and White statue would be a standalone piece that doesn’t affect the numbering system for the Berserk line–you wouldn’t need to buy “Manga” Guts to keep your number for Skull Knight and other future characters

GamesCom 2018 Logo First4Figures BoothOn Conventions:

  • Likely will have a 42 square meter booth at GamesCom
  • F4F is planning to do two shows in 2018 (Ani-Com and Gamescom), using merchandise sales to claw back some of the costs of displaying at the show
  • If the performance at GamesCom can demonstrate that con showings work, F4F will go on the road and do more shows
  • F4F will never make the same mistake of showing tons of stuff that won’t be available for order for months and months again–will primarily display stuff that has only been shown in photos before and has been up for pre-order by the show
  • The point of attending shows is to try to get access to people who have never heard of First4Figures before, so big reveals wouldn’t be integral to the shows

On TT Polls (Temptation Thursdays):

  • Ori and the Blind Forest TT: 217 ‘Yes’; 214 ‘No’; Neck-and-neck; keep it up
  • Beyond Good and Evil TT: Only 76 ‘Yes’ votes right now; doing badly
  • Ace Combat TT Next Week
  • This week’s hashtag: #F4FNeooow for a chance to win 500 Reward Points

F4F Jet Black Statue SmirkingThe Q&A!:

  • Yes there is a pose already for the Berserk armor and it looks super tight
  • Alex has been to Australia many years ago
  • Yes, we can have a Praise the Sun Solaire SD PVC
  • One pre-order for Soul Calibur this year because there’s still a lot of backlog from statues shown at NYCC 2017
  • Alex will E-Mail the My Hero Academia licensor next week
  • The number on the bases is the rounded up number of orders placed, although F4F typically does not produce the full edition size on the base because of estimated cancellations
  • F4F doesn’t want to raise prices on statues they think will sell badly–wants to price low to sell more
  • Thinking of a new Fierce Deity Link statue because of fans rallying–Alex wasn’t thinking of it before
  • Gravelord Nito is still at the 3-D stage–concerned about making the statue bigger and deeper; cloak has to be made of cloth
  • Spyro will not have a Last Chance Weekend
  • No future plans for Katamari Damacy
  • Jet’s facial expression is meant to be a neutral smirk and not a smile
  • “F4F001” would have been Alex’s choice for a license plate if he couldn’t have gotten “F4F”, but Chockles ruined it saying it looked like “F4Fool”; maybe “F4F1” instead
  • Alex and Chock are both okay with pineappple on pizza
  • What colors of Yoshi would collectors like to see? RTF (there are definitely plans though).
  • Absolutely no transfer of reward points unless you can “super super super super” prove that you’re related to someone–like a birth certificate
  • No Venom Snake statue any time soon–concentrating on MGS
  • If F4F was going to send a statue into space, it would be one of the Metroid gunships (of course)
  • Alex has become hella more aggressive since getting into the statue business at age 23
  • Alex loves the process of fine-tuning to build a better business
  • Laser eye surgery for Alex? Alex isn’t sure he could stay still for the local anesthetic on his eye, and is concerned about the long-term repercussions; convince Alex that he won’t piss himself and shit himself in terror
  • Alex would most look forward to making Joker from Persona 5
  • Has thought about making 2.0 versions of OOT Link
  • Sonic and Tails diorama development is going well
  • Shrianui will be more expensive than Amaterasu–much more difficult to produce
  • It’s still possible to get low numbers from a Wait List conversion if someone with a low number cancels
  • F4F will never be “big potatoes”–want to be interested in the community and not “Corporate”
  • You cannot use Reward Points for a payment on a statue that you’ve already ordered. The system does not work like that.
  • Guts’ hand-wrap will be fixed, but not before the pre-order launch
  • Being “small potatoes” is about feeling, not their size
  • F4F stock isn’t publicly traded–doesn’t want all their financial information available so folks can see how “small potatoes” they are
  • If Alex could make any anime statues without having the fans in mind, it would be Princess Mononoke
  • F4F hasn’t considered making a life-size Triforce
  • Yakuza will probably be part of the Sega All-Stars line
  • Alex would do statues with tasteful nudity
  • Stealth OG Snake and Mugen Edition Sizes next week
  • Would love to make a statue for To The Moon
  • Alex prefers Gong Xi Fa Cai; while Chock prefers Gung Hay Fat Choi
  • Alex fashions himself more of a designer than a collector–defines himself by work, rather than by his hobbies
  • The non-F4F statues that Alex would most like to have are
  • F4F has not been convinced to make Aika yet–keep pushing!
  • No Mario riding Peach Combo Pack Exclusive for Mario riding Yoshi
  • Revisions to color of Bowser’s flame haven’t been made yet
  • Chock has bought plenty of non-F4F statues
  • The Big Bang Theory super, super pissed Alex off the other day (besides the fact that the show has been dead for 4 seasons). Alex is pissed that there’s never a fucking F4F statue in the comic book store in the show, but there is a MF-ing 1:2 scale One2One Halo Master Chief bust.
  • Alex loves How I Met Your Mother; loves Better Call Saul; hasn’t had time to watch Westworld; was a massive fan of Breaking Bad
  • PVC molds are super expensive–you need to sell thousands and thousands of PVCs to pay for the tooling; you can’t make 200 pieces like for Fighter Kirby for a PVC
  • Skull Kid’s head has a metal piece in it for production reasons–wouldn’t have come out properly being made of just resin
  • Runescape line? RTF.
  • Dynamically-posed statues can be more expensive because of the packaging needing to be larger and increased effort/development time as opposed to a simple museum pose
  • Rider Link will be the same size as Link on Epona
  • True Form Midna will be 100% submitted to Nintendo next week
  • Dark Souls announcements are locked down for now. Nito won’t even go up for order until the end of 2018 at the earliest–don’t want to get into making announcements for years down the line.
  • First female Dark Souls statue won’t be released for years down the line
  • F4F tries not to put pre-orders for properties with overlapping fan bases back-to-back, but everyone is different and has different preferences
  • No news on any kind of BOTW Link variant
  • Link sold probably sold three times as many pieces as Crash; tens of thousands produced
  • Shadow Fighter Kirby is a possibility
  • Alex’s last vacation was to Thailand two years ago; going to see in-laws is a jail session
  • Cuphead: Possibility of black-and-white variants make potential Cuphead statues more interesting
  • Alex loved Hellblade: Senua’s Sacrifice; maybe a TT sometime
  • Alex has read Fullmetal Alchemist; the part he most remembers is Nina (“Woof!”)
  • F4F can’t say what homunculus would be most appropriate for statue form
  • Pre-order date for Alphonse still hasn’t been determined; final prototype not done before Chinese New Year
  • Alex has been working on Legend of Spyro Spyro; will concentrate on Cynder after that
  • No F4F representation at Dutch Comic Con
  • Partnership with Torch Torch has gone very well so far
  • Alex and Chock will still do the Q&A during Chinese New Year
  • Alphonse’s exclusive is pretty sweet; it makes sense and is from a scene
  • F4F will never go back to NYCC unless they have tons of merchandise to sell; maybe NYCC 2020?
  • Alex has a red car that the “F4F” license plate is going onto
  • The next resin statue pre-order will be in three weeks (March 2nd 2018); F4F will try to have a new pre-order every two weeks for the foreseeable future
  • If all goes well, Alucard will go up for order next after SD Artorias
  • Chocks’ words of wisdom for the week: “There’s a saying in Chinese: If you ever get the job done, you’re out of business”.

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